Kona Sutra 2013 Touring Bike: First Look

Kona have just announced their bike line-up for the 2013 season. While I don’t usually post on product launches, Kona have supported my adventures for half a decade, and last week they reminded me why I’m glad to be working with them (aside from getting to ride their bikes for free).

I wrote a detailed review of the 2012 Sutra touring bike after riding it from Vancouver to San Francisco in the spring. In the review, I pointed out a couple of big improvements I’d like to see made to this very capable long-term expedition tourer. Several other owners echoed these sentiments in the comments, and I sent the feedback to Kona’s designers in BC, Canada.

2013 Kona Sutra

So here it is — the 2013 Sutra, rebuilt as we requested. The big one, wider-ranged gearing — check. Rubber fender-extenders front and rear, also as requested — check. More robust grip tape, certainly needed in retrospect — check.

Same superb frameset and wheelset — check. Same confidence-inspiring ride quality and luggage-hauling capabilities — check. If only more companies would take pride in listening to their customers instead of telling them what they want.

There are now 4 Konas floating around in my posession — the Sutra dedicated tourer, the Explosif expedition bike, another Explosif rebuilt as a city singlespeed, and a steel Honky Tonk for dashing around the countryside on. I’ll remain a happy patron as long as Kona keep building bikes for riders rather than posers. Chapeau…

The best 2013 Sutra deal I can find is from Cyclestore*, who’ll give you £120 worth of free accessories with it. I’d spend this £120 bonus on a black or honey Brooks B17* saddle, a Zefal Spy* rear view mirror, a Topeak Road Morph* pump and an Alien II* multitool. (I use all of these myself.)

71 Responses to “Kona Sutra 2013 Touring Bike: First Look”

Posted by Dan Williams on

Arrggg… conflicting… must resist replacing my 2012 model.

I think Ill look into the cheaper option of adding rubber fenders.

The 26T is a good change and Ill have to look into doing it myself.

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Posted by tim on

Have just bought 2012 Sutra on special deal and note your comments about changing granny ring to 24t. However my LBS says I cant change just the one ring because there is a 20t range limit between the 3 rings on this set up. Is he wrong ?

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Posted by Tom Allen on

I’ve fitted a 24T without the slightest of issues, regardless of whether it’s ‘best practice’ or not. So yes, he is wrong. Show him this photo if you like ;)

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Posted by Daniel on

Just ordered a 2013 Kona as my first touring bike. Really looking forward to taking it on my first week long tour! Do you guys bother putting kickstands on your touring bikes? If so, what kind of kickstand do you use?

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Posted by Tom on

Hi Daniel — I haven’t put a kickstand on my bike, I usually just lean it up somewhere or lie it on the ground if there’s nothing vertical. People to use them, but you’ll need something a lot stronger than the traditional kind, because of all the extra weight and the different centre of gravity of a touring bike. Unfortunately I can’t help much with that, as I’ve never used them, but Google brings up a few ideas when searching for “touring bicycle kickstand”.

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Posted by Daniel on

Good point Tom. I wouldn’t bother with a kickstand either if I’m touring and have bags to cushion between the bike and a metal pole I might lock it too. However when I use it for commuting I’ll have to be real careful to not let the metal poles scratch and chip the frame.

One good tip I saw was to buy a velcro loop and loop it around the front tire and frame so when you are locked up your tire won’t turn and cause your bike to fall to the ground and get scratched up.

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Posted by Dave Charlesworth on

Hi, I have a 2010 Sutra, love it! As far as stands go, it’s taken me 2 years but I have finally discovered clickstand, check out the website. It really does a good job of supporting a fully loaded bike, ordered from USA , came in about 4 days, chuffed!

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Posted by Long Rider on

I solved the kickstand problem decades ago. Tie a loop at each end of 1/8th inch bungee chord, and another 2″ loop in the middle. Roll the back wheel so the valve stem is facing forward, and then lift the front wheel so its stem is facing back towards the back wheel’s. Slip the center bungee loop over the back stem, and the 2 end loops over the front stem. The bungee will hold the front wheel straight, and prevent the bike from rolling. It weights almost nothing, and is easily tucked into a jersey pocket, Bento box, or wrapped around your wrist. Indispensable for wrenching, on the road, or at home too.

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Posted by Ramona on

Sorry this is a bit of a late reply — but just in case… My husband and I have the double kickstands available through Rivendell for $40 (http://www.rivbike.com/category-s/335.htm). We are not in any way light weight tourers and don’t care one way or the other about that. I don’t mind leaning the bike or lying it down, but a fully loaded bike is heavy and loves to fall and stay down, so picking it up again is not that nice. Having a kickstand has been incredible — convenient, steady, simple — and I dare say that most touring cyclists we come across who see our bikes propped up on them admire them, as they search for something to lean up against. Not for everyone, I’m sure, but I have no complaints about mine.

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Posted by Doug M. on

One thing I haven’t liked about Kona’s unicrown fork on the Sutra (I think it’s also sold as the P2 cross disc fork) is the really tight clearance above the tire. It makes it hard to have a nice large-volume tire (38–45 mm) along with fenders. Might not be a concern for all, but it would be nice to have the extra clearance.

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Posted by Tom on

I would agree with the statement that there isn’t much clearance for large-volume tyres, as is the case with most road-oriented tourers. I’ve removed the front fender in order to fit 38C Marathon Mondials for my next trip, and I consider that a fairly small sacrifice to create the extra clearance. I may fit a down-tube fender in lieu of that — not yet sure.

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Posted by fotochap on

Looks good!

To solve the front mudguard clearance issue on my 2008 Sutra, I ended up hacksawing off the part of the front mudguard that extends under the fork and about 10cm over the tyre. It meant I could shift the whole guard up a little bit and fit my 700c x 38 Marathon Pluses, which was a necessity because at the time I was commuting via Peckham, whose pockmarked streets were not agreeing with the stock Contact tyres supplied with the bike.

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Posted by Tom on

Good idea! I can vouch for Peckham being surpassed only by Outer Mongolia in terms of awful road surfaces :)

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Posted by Yahya Afrikanus on

If you work for Kona, or rep their bikes you should really tells us. What’s up with the fork braze ons on the 2012 Sutras: some have two pair, some have one pair. Even the kona site 2012 Sutra has one pair and clamps to secure the rack: what gives? The frame is genius and I will purchase. I wish I did not have to wait for the 2013 model.

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Posted by Tom on

Hi Yahya

The first line of this article reads “While I don’t usually post on product launches, Kona have supported my adventures for half a decade, and last week they reminded me why I’m glad to be working with them (aside from getting to ride their bikes for free).”

Hope that clears that one up…

I can’t speak for any 2012 Sutra except my own, which has two bolt-holes in each fork leg and two braze-ons at the bottom. The stock rack fits securely like this. The bolt holes could also be used for bottle cages if a front rack was unnecessary. I haven’t tried fitting any other model of front rack myself.

Hope that helps!

Tom

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Posted by Daniel on

My 2013 kona sutra has the 2 sets of braze ons. . the odd thing was that the guy at the bike shop used metal clamps to secure the front rack instead of the braze ons. . I guess he couldn’t figure out how to match them up to the rack? Anyhow I took off his clamps and used the braze ons to secure the lower part of the rack. After seeing it installed that way in some tourers photos.

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Posted by John/Denmark on

Hi Tom

Thanks for a very good site.

I have the 2012 Sutra, and did some changes a FSA crank 46/32/22, adjustable stem, brooks B-17 etc. I can see Kona have done some of these changes, witch is great for new buyers. But why did they change the brakes Avid BB7 with Hayes? I think the Avid brakes re great and haven’t read much good about Hayes?

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Posted by John/Denmark on

Has time been given you any experiences with the new brakes?

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Posted by Tom Allen on

I don’t have a 2013 model to test long-term, but my 2012 brakes are still running perfectly. Hopefully another rider will post on the 2013 brakes, though I don’t anticipate issues — it’s all tried and tested gear.

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Posted by Mike on

Picke up my new 2013 Sutra yeaterday. The ride hame was a joy. Will update as time goes by.

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Posted by stewnewtotouring on

Hi Tom,
As my tag suggests, I am new to touring, just having completed my first 115 miler in a day. I have been looking for a tourer and fancy the Sutra, partially because there are some very good deals available. I notice the 2012 model has attachments for cantilever brakes as well as the BB7 discs. It seems from the Kona photograph that the 2013 doesn’t have these extra attachments. Am I correct? If it doesn’t, that would be a shame, especially as the Hayes brakes are an unknown quantity to me and I would like to keep the cantilever option, just in case.….

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Posted by Jerry on

Last summer I purchased a 2012 Kona Surtra for my first ever long tour — a six week, 2000 mile ride through the northern Rockies. I did swapout the gearing to a 50–39-30 front and 1–32, 9 speed reaer cassette which I found to be more than adequate for mounatain passess — and there were a lot of them. I also installed Schwalbe Marathon 700x32 tires which were incredible. I didn’t have a single flat in 2000 miles and I rode through a lot of broken glass and gravel roads.. With those changes, I couldn’t be happier with the bike. The only other change I might make is to install a Brooks saddle but I did get along fine with the WTB one that came with the bike. Maybe next year. At 1500 miles I had a minor tune up on the brakes and derailer done for $18.00. That was it for mechanical concerns. I’d highly recommend this bike if you’re considering taking a long tour. It’s reliable and stable even when fully loaded with 35–40 lbs of gear even at high speeds.

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Posted by Bob Stockdale on

Hello Tom, after a lot of time looking at touring bikes, I’ve just bought a 2013 Kona Sutra from Evans. One thing I think would be an improvement would be schrader valves, instead of presta.

regards Bob

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Posted by Mark on

Hi Tom,

I’ve read through your review of the Sutra and it’s provided alot of good information. However, I’m still confused about maximum tire clearance on the 2012 model. Can you comment on the max tire size without fenders? Thanks.

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Posted by Peter on

Thanks, I am leaning that way. Only reservation at this point is the overall weight of the bike, it seems daunting to travel long distances on this beast when I am used to a much lighter (and on paper at least), faster bike.

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Posted by Tom Allen on

I can understand your point. But remember that adding luggage makes a fast & light bike slow & heavy too :) so you might as well be riding one that’s designed for it, rather than a roadster that’ll flex all over the place!

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Posted by Peter on

Thanks again, I purchased the 2012 model today and based my decision in part on your review and advice. Now i am hoping the snow melts and my lungs and legs can be put to good use.

Posted by David on

I just bought a 2012 Sutra and love the bike. Do wish it had lower gearing in the front like the 2013’s. But the one big, yet minor, complaint I have concerns the front rack. There is a big flat bar across the top making it impossible to fit the ubiquitous Ortlieb Front Rollers without finding equipment to drill a hole in the bar, which I unfortunately do not have. The other option is to buy a new rack, but that, I have found, is difficult to find reasonably priced. Other than the gearing and front rack, a great bike!

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Posted by Martin on

Nice post ! I actually thinking about buying a Kona Sutra 2013, but in one shop I can have the 2012 with 20% discount. My question is, is the improvement on the 2013 are worth the cost ?
Thanks you.

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Posted by Tom Allen on

It’d be cheaper to simply buy a smaller inner chainring at the same time and have the shop swap it out — that’s my advice. The other improvements aren’t worth an extra 20%!

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Posted by Martin on

Thanks you a lot for the advice. Evancycles staff told me to go with the 2013 and the newer components :P . I’m not so rich, a nice discount is always welcome !

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Posted by Jasmine on

I hear wonderful things about this bike and how heavy duty it is. But I am scared. Do you think it can carry me (245 lbs) plus all my gear (145lbs)?

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Posted by Shidee on

HI Tom, need some advise on choosing correct bicycle size, I am 5′ 11″ tall, if I want to purchase kona sutra what is the correct size. tq

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Posted by Tom Allen on

I’m also 5’11″ with average proportions and I’m riding the 56cm model comfortably. Hope that helps!

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Posted by Shidee on

Thank you very much for fast reply, really appreciate it.

Posted by Shidee on

I am from kuala lumpur Malaysia, my friend and I plan to ride to Thailand & Cambodia(Angkor Wat) end of this year however still at planning stage.

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Posted by Petr on

Great reviews! Any suggestion regarding the size? I am 190cm tall, with an inseam of 89cm. Should I get the 59cm or 61cm frame? If I got the 61cm frame and it felt too large, would a shorter stem do the trick?

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Posted by Petr on

Upon assurance from CRC that they will change the bike for a different size, should the fit be wrong, I pushed the button and went for the discounted 2012 model in size 61. I will comment on the fit soon.

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Posted by Tom Allen on

Great — do let us know about your sizing experience — it’s probably the trickiest thing about ordering a bike online.

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Posted by chris on

i have looked at the crc web site and they only have 53cm and 59 cm in .which size would suit me if any . i am 5ft 10 in and 31 inch inside leg.just one last thing is this bike better than a ultra galaxy (cost alot more)

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Posted by ThaiRay on

I am 5.10 or 180 cm and theres plenty of adjustment on my 59

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Posted by Tom Allen on

The 56cm is probably going to be the best choice for your measurements, regardless of price/availability. If you must choose, I’d probably go for the 53cm. I’m 5’11″ and the 59cm is too long for me. Hope that helps…

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Posted by ThaiRay on

Guys, I have a 2013 Sutra but it has a BLACK front fork, any ideas why??

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Posted by Tom Allen on

Bike specs do vary slightly over time. Unless it’s a problem, I wouldn’t worry about it…

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Posted by Petr on

Yesterday, I finally received the discounted 2012 Kona Sutra model (in size 61) from CRC. However, my size conundrum is nowhere near to resolution. As stated in my previous post, my measurements are: height — 190 cm (6 feet 2.8 inches), inseam — 89 cm (35 inches), and somewhat shorter arms (arms span — 184 cm (6 feet 0.44 inches) . Also, my shoe size is 54 (UK 10.5 / US 11). The advice I received prior to the purchase was evenly split between the sizes 59 and 61. As it appears, I am somewhere in-between. And this being my first bike equipped with drop bars doesn’t help either. The whole posture (understandably) feels different and odd. I think the bike is too long for me. But having said that, the TT and WB are identical to my hybrid bike. In fact, the geometry is almost identical (except for the height), and when I swapped the drop bars for a flat bar, the reach was absolutely spot on. And so is the height of the front (with the stem flipped to positive 6 degrees). The stand-over is perfect too. There is absolutely no toe overlap without the front fender in this size (61), and most likely none with the fender on (provided the fender closely follows the contour of the wheel). I like the roominess of the frame and as well as the geometry. So, there are good arguments for either size. In the end, I’ve decided to keep the bike in size 61. First of all, it may be that the feeling of being stretched and uncomfortable is simply due to my inexperience with the drop bars. Second, I may decide to ditch the drop bars (upon some trial period of let’s say 2 months), and equip the bike with a flat bar. In this case, the bike in size 59 would be definitely too small for me. And finally, since the stretch is my only perceived issue with the size, I can always rectify it by changing the stem for something shorter.

Some words on the purchase and delivery from CRC. It took them 3 working days to dispatch my order. I was told this was due to a meticulous inspection of the bike prior to dispatching it (off to a customer — me). Fair enough. However, the very meticulous inspection failed to discover one scratch (about 1.5 cm) on the top tube, second scratch (about 5 cm) on the seat tube, and third scratch (1 cm) on the chainstay. Also, somebody forgot to lead the brake cable through the first cable guide on the down tube. So, now I don’t know whether the cable guide has some click mechanism, which would allow me to to open it, insert the cable, and click it back, or whether the cable must be disconnected from the rear brake, rewired through all the cable guides again, and connected back to the brake. Any advice? And finally, there is some strange noise coming from the BB7 rear brake, when I am free-spinning the wheel. I tried to adjust the brakes according to online manuals and videos, but I wasn’t successful. I am taking the bike to a bike shop tomorrow for some qualified advice. Provided there is nothing serious with the brakes, I will keep the bike in spite of the aforementioned issues. I don’t care so much about scratches, as all my bikes eventually end up banged up and scarred. But I will let CRC know about this and about not being overly happy with their service. The delivery by DHL took 7 days (no wonder since according to the tracking information, the bike was processed through 5 sorting facilities (!?!) over a 2,200 km long journey. The box the bike arrived in is absolutely humungous (190 x 110 cm). If it doesn’t sound like much on paper, just wait when you see it in person. While the box isn’t too heavy, the size makes it difficult to maneuver through tight spaces and/or carry it on a stairway. The bike was fully assembled (with exception of the drop-bars and the front fender).

My first impression: This is a beautiful bike. The finish is gorgeous (it will show scratches though), the retro look is cool, and the proportions are very eye-pleasing. The whole thing looks and feels very solid. With one exception — that being the fenders. They totally let the bike down. They are very black, glossy, and plasticky! They look cheap, they are short, they have no flaps, and they rattle! I took them off and threw them away. I also took off the rear rack. It feels very solid and it looks good (made by Tubus), but for my purposes I need a steal rack. The front rack arrived in a plastic bag, and even though I didn’t even take it out, it’s quite obvious it doesn’t come up anywhere near the quality of the rear rack. I gifted them both to my family members. Also, CRC threw in a pair of plastic pedals (for people like myself, who forgot to order pedals on time), a small multi-tool, and a pedal wrench. That was a nice surprise. Well done, CRC! The bike weighs (in size 61 without pedals, the fenders and the racks) 13.2 kg (29.1 lbs). But as other also noticed, you don’t really notice the weight of the bike when moving it around. Perhaps it’s due to the low height of the bike and (thus) no need for lifting it high.

Over all and so far, I am very pleased with the first impression. I will provide additional insight once I have solved the small issues and ridden the bike for some time.

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Posted by Jason on

Hey Tom, Have you any tidbits of info for the 2014 machine yet?

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Posted by Jason on

I read somewhere that there would be no 2014 Sutra — but interest in their Rove model.

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Posted by Jason on

Cheers Tom — I thought you might be able to get a definitive answer (and opinion) as an inside man!

I’m close to hitting the button on the 2013 model but also not in any great rush if there is anything interesting ahead.

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Posted by Tom Allen on

I can confirm that a 2014 Sutra does indeed exist, with a couple of modifications which sound like they might well be worth waiting for. It’ll be announced at Eurobike and I’ll have more details then ;)

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Posted by bigoldtester on

Hi Tom

Thanks for all the insights. I’ve been (ab)using my Roberts winter training bike to tour on for over a decade – it’s a beautiful bike, but not ideal or especially comfortable for touring with panniers (steep frame angles, tight clearances etc etc).

I looked into the Sutra for something more function specific at a reasonable price and it sounds like a great package, but having spotted the words ‘long-term expedition tourer’, my worry is that it may be a bit over-engineered for pootling along the lanes of Southern England and France, especially now I’m older and less inclined to beat myself up doing very long rides.

Is the Sutra still a good bet for 4–500 mile tours on decent roads?

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Posted by Thairay on

Few months into having my Kona Sutra 2013, it’s still riding like a dream 100s of miles into ownership!
I do have a couple of tiny build finishes that needed tweaking. I had to bend the front mud guard rail so that the disc brakes arm would travel fully, the bar tape has a big gap on one side and I was missing a couple of end caps that go on the mudguard rails to stop you poking your eyes out (As you do.)

I also had the same issue as Petr, a clip had been missed that held the cabling for the gear or the brakes (cant remember now) and the front pannier was in a bag, not good if you have zero technical ability. I wrote to Kona and they wrote to my supplier who apologised for sending it out un-built.

One of the weirdest things seems to be the bottom water bottle cage attachment is located so that you can’t actually get a full-size water bottle into it because it would hit the front wheel unless the mud guards were removed. I guess using a smaller bottle would cure this or use it with a gear holding equivalent.

I write all those negatives but I wouldn’t want another bike! My Kona Sutra is the best bike I have owned, it goes with me everywhere. From long haul trips to a quick spank down to the library and last night me and the kids bike trailer in tow, nipped to the swimming pool. My bike is covered in stickers and protective tape to save her from nasty sharp town street furniture but everyone comments on her size and geometry. I am ultra pleased with this bike!

I now need to find a better pedal as my look keo cleats and pedals aren’t really ideal for touring and skating around the streets on cleats is not cool

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